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PWR

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Junior
Registered: 04/02/06
Posts: 21
I have no idea what may have caused this, but tonight I noticed the logged in users group is no longer listed in Admins Only / Groups list. Can this lead to problems? What do you recommend I do? 1.4.0sr2

Concerned,

PWR
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Dirk

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Actually, if that group is missing, you wouldn't be able to log in any more ...

Check if the group still exists in the database.

bye, Dirk
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PWR

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Junior
Registered: 04/02/06
Posts: 21
Yes, the group exists in the database and we can log in so it seems to be functioning, but it doesn't appear in Groups Manager. I have weekly db backups going back 6 months, also have another geeklog site I can compare db settings to, but I don't know where to look, or what to look for, to correct the situation. Even if this isn't a critical issue, I'd like to restore it to the visible groups so it's not a lingering "situation".

Thanks Dirk, your previous comment was a relief. Now for the tweaking... ??

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PWR

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Junior
Registered: 04/02/06
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The group still doesn't appear in Group Admin, but here's my progress in troubleshooting. Any guidance/adivce would be greatly appreciated.

The Group Admin display does in fact have a row for the Logged-in Users Group, which I've determined elsewhere should be group id 13, but it's a very short, blank row, only a few pixels tall. I didn't even notice it until I viewed page source, which revealed empty data fields for that group, but by reading the data from the other groups I can see what's missing. Now, the questions in my mind are "what supplies the data to this .php page, and why isn't it working as expected?"

If I manually enter the url
http://www.pogowasright.org/admin/group.php?mode=edit&grp_id=13
I get the error message "To edit this group, you have to be a member of the group. Please contact the system administrator if you feel this is an error."

Also, I've determined that there's no listing for Logged-in Users on Admins Only / Users / Security Groups, so I can't ensure users are flagged as members of the group.

This is all very informative, but I haven't yet figured it out. Could it be that the group exists but is malfunctioning, that it needs at least one member before it'll appear? I realize if I'm logged in I should be a member automatically, maybe that's where the error lies...???

I'm hoping to clear this up soon, and am appreciative for any/all suggestions.

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PWR

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Junior
Registered: 04/02/06
Posts: 21
Okay, as root user I created a new root user. I logged out, then back in as the new root user, and could see the Logged-in Users group. While still logged in as newroot, I edited my original root user account, could see the logged-in user group was available in security groups so selected the appropriate checkbox. I logged out from newroot, logged in as myself, and everything seems right.

I had somehow been removed from the logged-in usergroup, now I suppose I have to go through the entire user database and make sure all users are assigned to the group. When I created the new user he was put in the logged-in group, by default, as expected, and that was the key I needed to unlock the answer to my problem.

At least now I understand what needs to be done. I'm leaving all these updates on the forum so others with a similar problem might find them via search.
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