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1000ideen

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I`d like to discuss with you the following points to make suggestions for the improvement of the site and also to design a flyer for geeklog:

What does a visitor looking for a CMS want to know at first glance?

- Geeklog in comparison to other popular systems like Mambo, Joomla, Wordpress
- How big is the community community?
- How many themes and plugins are there?
- For how long does Geeklog exist and what about future developement?
- What are the advantages which are so so easyly visible?
- Installation requirements, normal webspace, register globals, safe mode?
- Is there a true separation of code and contents, theme, language?
- What about security, bugs, the quality of programming?
- Specialities like: admin rights, roles.
- A show case, typical and graphically and technically extreme sites.
- Where is the current download (1-click) ?

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I`d like to discuss with you the following points to make suggestions for the improvement of the site and also to design a flyer for geeklog:

What does a visitor looking for a CMS want to know at first glance?


Do you mean a new visitor or a regular visitor? It probably matters. The geeklog homepage could have an center static page for new visitors that operates on a cookie.

- Geeklog in comparison to other popular systems like Mambo, Joomla, Wordpress
That's not really a front page item as it is a moving target really.
- How big is the community community?
Does anyone really know?
- How many themes and plugins are there?
Does anyone really know for sure?
- For how long does Geeklog exist and what about future developement?
I would love to see a roadmap. At the moment, new content gets into new releases whenever a dev feels like changing something. There's no project management and even the bug tracker is still down after who knows how many months.
- What are the advantages which are so so easyly visible?
GL doesn't have any. It's motto is security over substance. You can't see security.
- Installation requirements, normal webspace, register globals, safe mode?
Good for bullet points I suppose although i don't know what you mean by "normal webspace".
- Is there a true separation of code and contents, theme, language?
- What about security, bugs, the quality of programming?
- Specialities like: admin rights, roles.
Complete CMS noobs won't care and could even be confused by such things. For a brochure they make sense. They don't make sense for the GL front page except as vague bullet points detailed on another page.
- A show case, typical and graphically and technically extreme sites.
Well there is a fully functioning demo system.
- Where is the current download (1-click) ?
Also useful.

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Thanks, yes I meant the first time visitor. Actually I asume he is male, rather technically oriented (some knowledge of HTML and CSS), and has tried another CMS / blog before which was not pleasing. Geeklog is not optically attractive especially not in comparison to Mambo`s gallery: http://www.mamboserver.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=94&Itemid=123 You see this galery is additional to a demo system, a show case of well designed or technically interesting sites.

The first step should be to sum up what questions such a visitor would like to have answered then how to transport this in words and in graphics / pictures and finally how to design it and where to place it.
Yes, there are ways to transport the idea of security and reliability.

I had a brief look at the cmsmatrix.org to get some more ideas what a visitor could be looking for. They are listing some nice points but some are missing.

One more point is the possibility to drop the "powered by geeklog" line. This was extremely important for me when I was looking for a CMS several years ago. Thus I never looked at postnuke.

With "normal webspace" I meant that no root access is necessary nor does one have to alter the .htaccess.

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With "normal webspace" I meant that no root access is necessary nor does one have to alter the .htaccess.
Well, that's not totally true. If you don't have access to directories outside the webroot you should use .htaccess to cordon off much of geeklog (and I'm sure the other CMS would be more secure that way too).

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1000ideen

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You mean a password protection. That can be done by newbees through cpanel or so. I meant the special code that has to be placed into the .htaccess with wordpress when using the altered links or also mambo. That code is not easy to handle, one has to write it directely into the .htaccess (problems of ftp a .htaccess, making it visible or renaming it from htaccess.txt etc.) . People also love to lock themselves out when doing this.

Furthermore with cpanel and wordpress there are special problems when you want to have another password protected subdir below your main public_html. It was so weired two support teams couldn`t solve it.

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