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[Spam] Meet The ???

Authored by: Stranger on Sunday, April 10 2005 @ 09:16 am EDT

Dear Dirk,

I appreciate your effort to fight spam generators. This problem became actual for many people. Spam generators leaving in comments a lot of crap, marketing sites for the people with deviated sexual orientations, etc…

I have a sensitive question to you:

Why do you call these spam generators “Russians” / “Bulgarians”?

May I notice that the major of the spam, including promotion of drugs, loans and similar crap, are for the marketing of American producers of the mentioned in the spam goods. Why do you think these spammers have got name “Bulgarians”, “Russians”? Is it to destruct people’s attention from the real spam-makers and propaganding population with the image of bad Europeans with socialistic background, promoting American staff (???!!!)

If you do not have conclusive evidences, proofing, that the spam makers ARE really Bulgarians or Russians (not Americans with foreign background, or just Americans), please avoid use of this abusing naming and publish their real names.

And if you have detected IP numbers, piling on Russian ISP – please do not take it as serious evidence of some reasons:

1) Probably None of the Russians are interested in marketing American Business;

2) They might be Americans, residing in the Russian federation and pumping our mails with their commercial crap;

3) Spamming engines can be remotely controlled, just like giant spam mailing robots, YET marketing American products

4) IP number can be easily substituted by any number. Anyone can download software (I believe American software) to clone an IP number

5) They are some companies, providing fight with the email spam (“…just for 10 US$ per month we can…”). I wander how these companies (most likely American and English) stopping the spam, if it is not them self, sending this spam to billions of the people…

[Spam] Meet The ???

Authored by: Dirk on Sunday, April 10 2005 @ 09:57 am EDT

Erm, did you follow the link "background information"?

And I was not talking about spam in general but about one particular source of spam, which has been tracked back to two Bulgarian brothers (whereever they may live now).

bye, Dirk

[Spam] Meet The ???

Authored by: vesselin on Friday, June 24 2005 @ 03:15 am EDT

i believe there are spammers from different nations,
and I think there are spammers living in you country too.

I wouldn't normaly waste my time writing stuff in your forum, but the fact is - when i wrote 'bulgarians' in google your article was one of the resulst on the first page.. right next to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarians ..- and have a look - there aren't mantioned any famous bulgarian spammers ;)

no, but there is mantioned one of the fathers of the modern computer - John Atanassov.
So why don't you GEEKZ wrote somethin` positive like.. :)) Bulgarians - inventors of the modern computer .. duh..

[Spam] Meet The ???

Authored by: Dirk on Friday, June 24 2005 @ 01:00 pm EDT

I think the posts by Joe and Ann over at spamhuntress.com (where you posted the same thing) pretty much cover everything that can be said.

Let me just add that there are good guys and bad guys in every country. And if you don't want the bad guys to make the headlines, why not do something about them?

For example: Are there anti-spamming laws in Bulgaria? If so, can you help us make use of them? I would be more than happy not having to spend a portion of my free time every day just to catch up with these guys and prevent them from making our sites unusable ...

bye, Dirk

Edited on Monday, May 06 2013 @ 02:18 pm EDT by Dirk

good guys bad guys..

Authored by: vesselin on Thursday, June 30 2005 @ 10:23 am EDT

oh.. it's obvious you haven't been in eastern europe lately ? :)) the last thing police should worry around here is spam..

im serious :) ..im just trying to say .. the world we live in is very different from the world you live in

..but whatever, i don't think 'meet the bulgarians' is a proper title unless it's some article about history :) really, so please do me a favor, do what is the right thing to do, and rename that spam-related-article, maybe something like Bulgarian Spamers or somethin`.. but not 'Meet the bulgarians'

thank you :)

(and one more thing - I don't really believe we do have such laws about spam)

[Spam] Meet The ???

Authored by: vesselin on Friday, June 24 2005 @ 03:33 am EDT

you haven't talked about BUlgarian spammers or bulgarians, you actually entitled your spam realated article "Meet the bulgarians". so please.. could you change it's title ?

[Spam] Meet The ???

Authored by: Dirk on Monday, April 11 2005 @ 01:19 pm EDT

I see you left a similar comment on Ann Elisabeth's site. So let me ensure you that this is not some evil American conspiracy against Bulgarians or Russians (which I didn't even mention, btw) in general.

Ann Elisabeth and others have tracked down one particular spammer who just happens to be from Bulgaria (and I think Ann's evidence is sound and matches what we see here and over on geeklog.info).

And since you obviously missed that bit: Neither Ann Elisabeth nor myself are American ...

bye, Dirk

[Spam] Meet The "No Names"

Authored by: RickW on Tuesday, April 12 2005 @ 11:34 pm EDT

Dirk was not trying to slander the citizens of any country. He is just using a nickname for two guys that we can track because of their location, i.e. Bulgaria. When someone refers to the "Nigerian Scam Letter", do you find that offensive? Again, it's a relationship of spam identity and spammer location. I suppose we could call these guys "Spammer #231786"...

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