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GL Differentiators

Authored by: Tony on Thursday, November 01 2001 @ 09:31 pm EST

Yes, Geeklog is meant to be a weblog/newsportal/what-ever-you-call-it package similar to Slashdot/Kuro5hin/Nuke/etc. However, the original creator of GL, Jason Wittenburg, built Geeklog with security and performance in mind. To-date (and according to less-than-scientific tests) Geeklog seems to outperform almost all weblogs in speed. We hope that after we raise the bar with the release of 1.3 to have time to compare performance using more scientific means (apache-bench?).

Perhaps the neatest feature of Geeklog is the new security model due out with version 1.3. This security model is very much *nix-like and uses the owner/group/world model for Geeklog objects (stories, links, blocks, etc). This security model can be easily extended to be used by plugins of the system. For the purposes of Geeklog, we seperated the world group into two subgroups: members (users logged in but aren\'t the owner or part of the group of an object) and anonymous (users that are browsing the site but not logged in). Making this distinction you can easily hide content from anonymous users making membership to you Geeklog site more attractive.

I will say, however, that Geeklog hasn\'t implemented many of the bells and whistles of the bigger weblogs particularly moderated submission queues and user/comment ratings. However, don\'t take Geeklog lightly...it is a very capable weblog system.

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GL Differentiators

Authored by: Tane on Friday, November 02 2001 @ 04:11 am EST

Ehh, I thought Geeklog DID have moderated submission queue? I.e. a member of a lower security group or anonymous people can submit stories and links, but a moderator needs to accept them.

Also, for 1.3 Geeklog will have a much more open structure, with the plugin API and Database abstraction being the big 2 for this.

GL Differentiators

Authored by: Tony on Friday, November 02 2001 @ 06:01 am EST

No, when I say moderated submission queue I mean open-moderation. In other-words, all users (not just admins) can rate items in the submission queue and once an item reaches a certain threshold it is automatically posted. Of course admins can override this process and post thing directly.

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GL Differentiators

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Sunday, November 04 2001 @ 04:32 pm EST

Um...no buddy. There is absolutely no way GL is faster then other systems. Try loading GL with a million comments over thousands of stories, then try loading them all in, say, nested mode out of the DB. Geeklog, last time I checked (admittedly, 1.1) makes a helluva lot of DB calls. It is easy to implement? Yes. It is powerful? Pretty much. Do the themes rock? you bet. Is it as fast as Scoop or whatever? No way. Sure its as fast as Nuke, but what isn't?

So whatever happened to completely rewriting GL in the full OO paradigm with minimal DB calls, etc? Oh, I guess I mean 2.0? Oh yeah, it died...

Damn, I shouldn't have gone to college...then I could have worked on GL instead.

GL Differentiators

Authored by: Tane on Monday, November 05 2001 @ 01:36 am EST

Geeklog 2.0 isn\'t dead.

It was decided to get a stable 1.x version of Geeklog out before working on 2.0 (which will be compleatly OO)

1.x still has some way to being optimized, but its getting there.

GL Differentiators

Authored by: MLimburg on Wednesday, November 07 2001 @ 02:57 pm EST

The 1.x is \"sketchboard\" code. We\'re still working on what we want and need within this webapp. Once we\'re mostly happy with GL 1.x as a fully featured weblog (and that\'s for our own needs on our own sites), then we\'ll clamp on feature. 1.x.y releases will be done to provide bug fixes and minor refinements.

Then comes v2.x releases. Now that we have our conceptual framework established, it\'s time to replace the patchworked backend code to a customised engine, all sitting on an OOP framework.

Quit trolling.

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GL Differentiators

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Friday, January 17 2003 @ 03:53 pm EST

Since speed is a "selling" point, should you convert to OO? This should be a consideration.

GL Differentiators

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Friday, January 17 2003 @ 06:14 pm EST

They're planning to do that in GL2. Personally, I don't think OO speeds up the processing. I've used different OO written software and found it to execute much slower. This could very well be because the code was not written efficiently, but I still haven't seen any that performs better than non-OO written code.

It also worries me a bit that the developers are going to use PEAR. PEAR also seems to execute slower.

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