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Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Wednesday, May 21 2003 @ 01:25 pm EDT

I'm confused on why some of you new people want Geeklog to grow into a large community. I don't see the benefit unless the developers can make money. It might result in maybe a handful of more people helping Dirk answer 20 to 50 times the amount of questions. It may even attract more plugin/block developers, but I think it will result in the same course as PhpNuke/PostNuke where people running non-personal sites find the majority of them are useless.

I think Geeklog would benefit if it had a business plan. If the developers here want this more than just a hobby, they could do something similar to what Invision Board does. They release their product for free to the public and have free support on their boards. They charge a fee to remove the copyright notice, for off-board support, web-hosting, and customized modules which is more appealing to businesses. The money earned helps to further the product development for everyone and they receive some compensation.

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Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Wednesday, May 21 2003 @ 11:06 pm EDT

What advantages does geeklog have over phpnuke? It seems to me that they have thousands of users with hundreds of block, modules, and themes. So I guess my question is why geeklog over phpnuke?

Chris

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Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Thursday, May 22 2003 @ 12:56 am EDT

Geeklog's main advantages over phpNuke are: an elaborate and easy to use security system, cleaner written code with extensive comments making it easier to follow the logic and modify, and the code is far more secure. Security has always been a far distant thought for phpNuke though they've been trying to turn this around after having a number of their sites hacked up.

Nuke has a lot of modules and blocks. Most of them though are geared towards small segments of the population, and are of no interest to those running non-personal sites. Some are merely spin offs of others. Very few of the module/block developers actively maintain their code, but the most widely used ones seem to be. In their last release, Nuke foolishly integrated phpbb tightly into their core codebase so you can't deinstall it without completely breaking the rest of the program. If you don't want a forum or don't like phpbb tough you're stuck with it. You can deactivate it or install another forum, but you have to keep a lot of phpbb's code on your server too. Nuke has a lot of themes. They range from so so to absolutely fabulous. Many of these though are not ported as new versions are released. Keeping up with new releases is a constant battle for all of these CMS', but the more modules/blocks/themes you have the harder it is.

Perhaps the biggest advantage Geeklog has is it is not run by a power hungry one-man show with a cult following who bully other people around. They get outright hostile over there when someone releases a module/block similar to one which has been released before. The cult will also belittle people on and on if they remove the big ugly Nuke copyright notice on their pages. They even set up a blacklist (nukeblacklist.net) to embarrass others who btw contribute quite a bit.

phpNuke could be a great community, but they have too many with big huge egos running around. Sure, they have many tens of thousands of users but only a tiny percentage are contributing back. It's the nature of open source. A very small percentage are doers and the majority are takers. If you're looking for quantity over quality, by all means go with phpNuke. If you want quality, then look somewhere else.

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Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Thursday, May 22 2003 @ 03:41 pm EDT

Thanks for your comments. I used phpbb and nuke at first as well. Then I d/l geeklog. This community is the best I have ever come across for both beginner and advanced php developers. I have learned nearly 100% of my php from this site and this proggy. I have packaged, branded, and modified this proggy and actually made money from my clients for doing it.
Thanks everyone.

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Authored by: ScurvyDawg on Saturday, May 24 2003 @ 03:27 pm EDT

You should consider sharing the wealth with some of the developers of GL. If you profit from useing a tool that is given away for free. You should assist in continuing its development by donating some cash.

Nothing helps keep things going like cash.

The most ridiculous...

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Saturday, May 24 2003 @ 06:40 pm EDT

...on nukeblacklist.net they complain about copyright issues and blatantly stole Windows and MSN icons for their nav-bar on top.
(you instantly notice the usage of phpNuke anyways...)

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