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I've had a good look around the site and Gplugs in my quest for an answer but havent had any luck.. what im trying to do is get the links of the static pages outputted in a block without doing it my self. So in essence when a person wants to add a link to a static age it goes to the block rather than the header.. i have lookin in lib-common ath the men element bit and cant get my head around how it works. My php knowledge is limited so if anyone has done this already and woud like to share there info then please do thanx Tim