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Quote by: LWCThe tags sound nice! How do you choose them for stories? And if you choose, say, Geekloging, will it say "hey, there's already a tag called Geeklog, click here to stick to it instead of Geekloging"?
It's just an entry field under the story. I will add an autocomplete feature once the core functionality works. But I figured I'd first get it out there so folks can use it.
Maybe you should get Mark to use your plugin for Media Gallery's non clickable tags. Like maybe if Media Gallery sees your plugin is active, it will make its tags clickable by using your plugin.
I'm sure Mark will see it and evaluate it himself. Adding new support types is easy as long as there is a call to PLG_templateSetVars in the right places.

Currently, there is no admin interface to the plugin. It just assumes anyone logged-in can enter tags to any supported object. Unfortunately, only stories call PLG_templateSetVars in unmodified Geeklog. I'll work on common patches for various other plugins as I get time (and requests). Yours is request 1 for a mediagallery patch. Smile
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It's just an entry field under the story

I didn't know plugins can go that deeply in the system (without hacking), nice. I assume it's really under the story and not in the FCKeditor menu?

I will add an autocomplete feature once the core functionality works

Autocomplete would be great. I hope it would be like in IMDb. That is, a list of similar tags. Then, if you're sure it's none of them, you can suggest a new tag. That way the admin can maintain a chosen list of tags instead of having endless tags, which is something I don't like about web 2.0. Even IMDb, that has a closed list instead of endless tags, has lots of variations of the same thing. So you can never be sure you get all of the relevant movies when you click a certain tag.

I'm sure Mark will see it and evaluate it himself.

It would be great if Mark cooperated with you. Then he could focus on the media stuff instead of on tags.

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Are you sure you don't want to open up a little business so I could pay you and delcare it a business expence, which is what it is?
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It's just an entry field under the story

I didn't know plugins can go that deeply in the system (without hacking), nice.

PLG_templateSetVars. Unfortunately, it's only supported by stories (and when I'm done with it, events.) Of course, tag would probably look weird next to links and polls though. Staticpages could support it if the staticpage calls the function itself.
Autocomplete would be great. I hope it would be like in IMDb. That is, a list of similar tags. Then, if you're sure it's none of them, you can suggest a new tag. That way the admin can maintain a chosen list of tags instead of having endless tags, which is something I don't like about web 2.0. Even IMDb, that has a closed list instead of endless tags, has lots of variations of the same thing.
Sorry, I went with the slashdot.org model and open tags. I'm sure it could be enhanced to handle closed tags once the autocomplete part is done. But that's not my interest at the momemt.

I do plan to add an admin section where you could tell the system different tags are the "same". So if you have google and googling in your tag tables you could force the system to treat both as "google" for look up (and cloud size) purposes.
It would be great if Mark cooperated with you. Then he could focus on the media stuff instead of on tags.
All he (or anyone) needs to do is add the PLG_ call to his code before he parses his templates, add a {tags} entry to the relevant template files, and make sure there is a $template->set_var call containing the unique identifier of the object. Then it just takes a few Config entries in my plugin and its all hooked up.
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Are you sure you don't want to open up a little business so I could pay you and delcare it a business expence, which is what it is?
What do you need from me to show I'm a "business"? I usually mark income like this on my taxes as "consulting".
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I assume it's really under the story and not in the FCKeditor menu?
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Iif you have google and googling in your tag tables you could force the system to treat both as "google"

It would be more efficient if instead of doing it each and every time, it would just change once every story that has "googling" to "google".

What do you need from me to show I'm a "business"? I usually mark income like this on my taxes as "consulting"

When you enter a store and want to prove you bought there (since it's for your business), what is the only thing you care about? Legitimate business invoices. Everything else is not my business (no pun intended). I need to prove I paid X by having an invoice from your business that declares X was paid to your business by my business.
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I assume it's really under the story and not in the FCKeditor menu?
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Tags are entered by the rabble, not the story writers/editors (although they can participate as rabble I suppose). Slashdot is controlled chaos. Problem with putting it into the editor is there is no sid until the story is saved so I have nowhere to store them such as between previews.
It would be more efficient if instead of doing it each and every time, it would just change once every story that has "googling" to "google".
Perhaps. It's a future feature so I'm sure there will be others who would want the aggregate 'google' and the subaggregates 'google' and 'googling' to show up in their tag clouds. Answering your question before I was still considering all sides.
When you enter a store and want to prove you bought there (since it's for your business), what is the only thing you care about? Legitimate business invoices. Everything else is not my business (no pun intended). I need to prove I paid X by having an invoice from your business that declares X was paid to your business by my business.[/p]
Office stores sell invoice blanks. And wouldn't a paypal email receipt be worth just as much printed out as one of those invoice blanks? Smile

I will be talking to my accountant about it next week. The calendar gig is potentially a lot more income than my "consulting" fees of the past.
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Tags are entered by the rabble

What's a "rabble"?

there is no sid until the story is saved so I have nowhere to store them such as between previews.

That's also true for the story's title, introtext, bodytext, featured or not, and everything else a story has. They're just passed around as $_POST paramters.

And wouldn't a paypal email receipt be worth just as much

Of course office stores can't and have no legal right to check who they sell to. Therefore your signature is the difference maker. Only a business has the legal right to sign those blank invoices.

Can you fake a business signature? In general, you can fake anything. But at least where I live I can check your business in a governmental site (or just count on you to show me a printed governmental license). Internationally it's another story, because I don't know how to check you in your country. So internationally it's just a matter of trust. If you do fool me and my IRS one day tells me they're on to you, they will no longer accept my payments to you as business expences and I'll have to pay taxes for my payments to you (read: it won't screw you directly, but indirectly I'll no longer pay you in the future).
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What's a "rabble"?

The great unwashed? Your users. Have you seen slashdot?
That's also true for the story's title, introtext, bodytext, featured or not, and everything else a story has. They're just passed around as $_POST paramters.
Yeah, but there's a big difference between writing something that understands 2 parameters (id and type) versus something that understands all the ins and outs of story edit/save/preview/submission etc. That's why the story has to be saved before there can be tags.
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Now, I am back from the summer.

Just added $200 to Dirk's Paypal account.

Hope it went through.

Thanks for all your cooperation!

Sam
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We're up to $720 now.

bye, Dirk
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Has this happened yet? If this Calendar Mod/Update allows for email reminders & Recurring events I'll chip in $20.00!

Thanks!
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It's not ready now. It will be done by the end of the year. Right now its in the process of being developed. You can help by donating through PayPal at the information below.

For the account name, please use the email address that you can find in pretty much every Geeklog file: dirk AT haun-online DOT de

Please add "Calendar plugin" and your geeklog.net username as the subject / reason so I can track the payments.

I'll post updates here.

bye, Dirk
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Done! Thanks! Can't wait to see it finished.

jared

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It's getting close to the end of the year and I was just wondering how it's going on this???
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See jmucchiello forum post here:

http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=76193&mode=&show=5&page=7

You could also pm him for information on the test site.
One of the Geeklog Core Developers.
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Yeah, my wife broke her elbow and that put some serious limitations on my freetime for about a month and a half. She's nearly done with physical therapy, now. So things have returned to normal around here.
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One person has asked for their money back. Down to $690 now.

bye, Dirk
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I understand.
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Another person asked for their money back. Down to $490 now.

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Unfortunate. But not unexpected. I hope to put something out shortly after 1.5.1 is final. It won't have recurring events but all the other features are hopefully still working. Some of the required features have been working for over a year. It's my own fault for not going with a frequent release methodology.
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Two more people have asked for their money back. One has already received it and I'm waiting to hear back from the other person.

Current sum: $390, probably going down to $215 soon.

bye, Dirk
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