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I Have 32 posts un answered, if you do a search on any thing you will see 1000's of unanswered posts.


Sorry to hear you're having such a hard time, but I'm actually taking offence in your accusations that people are not getting any help on this site.

Looking through your older posts, I see that pretty much all of them are about phpBB and the phpBBBridge. The only other posts I could find were about the Weather plugin and you did get helpful replies on that one.

It seems you were unfortunate to struggle with two extensions that don't seem to be supported any more. But to extend your bad experience with those to all of Geeklog is unfair, to put it mildly. Many people are putting a lot of their free time into this software, its extensions and these forums - and you just insulted all of them just because of your bad experience with one particular add-on.

Take a deep breath, think about what you posted in the last couple of hours and whether all those accusations were really justified. I guess I don't have to point out that I think they were not ...

bye, Dirk



Dirk....

Yes, they are justified... and yes I an way beyond annoyed....

I am normally a patient person but havng to work my way through geeklog plugins blindly is not a task I want to go through again.

I know what I am trying to do does work because I have seen several sites with it working.

I have spent the last 24 hours reading posts on this forum, and all that relate to similar issues that I am experiencing have not had one reply to why?
A simple reply stating that this is no longer supported would have stoped all of todays rants as some one put it in an earlier thread.

example of a past thread who states that there is no support on geeklog forums:

http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=2&showtopic=59535&highlight=phpbb%20bridge

I spent the past 6 weeks trying to get geeklog installed, and several plugins on this site, and not one have installed following the instructions except for the phpbb bridge but I'm having problems getting it to do what it is suppose to do.

Yes you have a geeklog forum, I just spent the past two hours trying to install that and guess what, it doesn't install, why?
The instructions are incomplete, there is now Step 5....

Your Forum is very basic and does not have the functions I need so that is not an option but I was trying to install it to see if there was a work around but as I can't install it, again I have given up using your forum as a solution.

So back to trying to sove my original problem without any help from anyone.

I still don't understand why you have plugins available on this site that don't work, if you could explain that I wouls atleast have one less thing to worry about.

So in Summary, yes the previous posts were justified, not any of the suggestions solve my problems.

I have decided the best way to move forward is to call a meeting with the board of the association that I am trying to help and advise that I made a mistake with using geeklog as our solution, and suggest we look at other solutions.

It's obvious that Geeklog is not the solution for this association.


Will, one VERY, VERY annoyed person

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Will,

I received your email about viewing profile from bridged phpBB. I can view profile without problem. It seems that you didn't installed phpBB bridge correctly.

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Your failure in attempting to install Geeklog Forum makes me think that you must have a real hard time understanding the documentations. If Geeklog Forum is so hard for you, I am even surprised that you managed to install the phpBB to this extend. BTW, the new Geeklog Forum doesn't seem so basic to me. It has some great features that phpBB Bridge doesn't support. It also doesn't have some of the features phpBB has. But in anycase, it's not as basic as you think.

I still don't understand why you have plugins available on this site that don't work, if you could explain that I wouls atleast have one less thing to worry about.


It seems that you don't understand the Open Source culture. I don't know what age group you are in, but this is part of the new world (often described as "postmodernity"Wink, where people around the world that don't know each other contribute to build something for free. So the explanation is that no one owns Geeklog, and therefore nobody has the right, or at least it is hard to decide when, to remove others abandoned plugins because some new guy might eventually pick it up and continue the mission. If you are not comfortable with this, you must belong to the modernity.

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Thanks for your assistance
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Hi Sam

Thanks for your assistance, let me try and explain...

Your failure in attempting to install Geeklog Forum makes me think that you must have a real hard time understanding the documentations. If Geeklog Forum is so hard for you, I am even surprised that you managed to install the phpBB to this extend. BTW, the new Geeklog Forum doesn't seem so basic to me. It has some great features that phpBB Bridge doesn't support. It also doesn't have some of the features phpBB has. But in anycase, it's not as basic as you think


The documentation is incomplete for the new forum, there is no step 5, it goes from step 4 to step 6? and yes I have trouble understanding the documentation, as I said, I'm not a geek but over the past 6 weeks I have learnt a lot. It took me over 2 weeks to install the phpbb bridge correctly without any errors. All is working fine now except when a guest tries to view a profile they get a 404 error page, not the logon page. We don't want guests to view profiles.

We are a youth association, we need to cater for the youth (16+ to 25), they expect certain features that I can't see on the geeklog forum, I'm not saying that the forum is not a good one, just it's not suitable for our needs. We need to be able to stop guests from reading profiles, as well as stopping new members from viewing profiles until a certain amout of posts level. This is to protect the profile details from the sicko's who pray on youth on the net.

It seems that you don't understand the Open Source culture. I don't know what age group you are in, but this is part of the new world (often described as "postmodernity", where people around the world that don't know each other contribute to build something for free. So the explanation is that no one owns Geeklog, and therefore nobody has the right, or at least it is hard to decide when, to remove others abandoned plugins because some new guy might eventually pick it up and continue the mission. If you are not comfortable with this, you must belong to the modernity.


You are probably right that I don't understand the Open Source culture but I am learning all be it very slowly.

I still don't understand why if a plugin is no longer supported it doesn't state this any where, or at least if some one posts a topic, and it is no longer supported why know one makes a quick one paragraph reply saying so...

Anyways...

I have started to find an alternative to our problem other than Geeklog, today I wasted a full 24 hours and got absolutlely know where in solving my problem. If anyone can give me some hints on what the problem could be It would be appreciated.

Our site is finished and up the only problem is 404 error pages when guests try to access things instead of getting the logon page, and if a notification of reply email is sent out and the member clicks on the link, they get a 404 error page, not the logon page.

Will
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Quote by: aussiewalI spent the past 6 weeks trying to get geeklog installed, and several plugins on this site, and not one have installed following the instructions except for the phpbb bridge but I'm having problems getting it to do what it is suppose to do.
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Quote by: aussiewalI have decided the best way to move forward is to call a meeting with the board of the association that I am trying to help and advise that I made a mistake with using geeklog as our solution, and suggest we look at other solutions.
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Did you ever considered this Would you install Geeklog for me?

Geeklog is surely not the easiest solution, but it is surely worth it and once you get the hang of it, a simple GL installation takes less as an hour.

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Hey Dude

Thanks but I had no problem installing Geeklog as it was installed through Fantastico all automated, the problem was installing Plug Ins that aparently are no longer supported.

Anyway...

As of 5 minutes ago, I have my problem fixed thanks to an email from a geeklog user who wants to remain annon, A HUGE THANKS!

All I need to do know is change a few of the words on the page which I can do I think...

Where do I change the words on the page that displays asking you to login in ?

Thanks again the annom geeklog user.

Yeeee Haaaaa

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Where can I change the text ...?


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I am glad that this discussion eventally evoke an angel to drop you an email!

BTW, you repeatedly mentioned that "We are a youth association, we need to cater for the youth (16+ to 25), they expect certain features that I can't see on the geeklog forum," but I still don't know which certain features you mean that you can't see on the geeklog forum.

I am not trying to stuff the geeklong forum on you. I am just trying to help you think about the long term solution. Over the years I have found that better integration alway works better and more secure.

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I still don't understand why if a plugin is no longer supported it doesn't state this any where, or at least if some one posts a topic, and it is no longer supported why know one makes a quick one paragraph reply saying so...

The simple answer is because nobody knows absolutely which plugins are or are not still supported. Open Source software is anarchy. No one is in charge beyond their own little kingdoms. The core dev team can only speak with authority over the core of geeklog. Blaine and only Blaine can only speak with authority over the current state of the forum plugin. If, for example, Blaine were to decide to stop posting here and on his own support site who could say for sure that he had abandoned his plugin or that he's just too busy to post? Only he could. This is why plugins exist on the download site that are no longer supported. Nobody knows they are unsupported until someone like you comes along and says no one is answering his questions.

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Glad to hear you finally got some resolution.


I was talking about someone helping you through the email. It seems that you do have difficulty in reading Big Grin. No wonder the documentations are too hard for you.

As for the Geeklog forum, it is no longer Blaine alone. Mark Evens has joined the team, the guy has created the marvelous Media Gallery.

In my memory, the Geeklog Forum was not started by Blaine either. Someone else started writting the Geeklog Forum. Blaine joined in and carried on.

I see the integration between the Media Gallery and Forum has generated some nifty features. With the Captcha 2.0 integrated, it becomes even more secure.

You might say, "Why didn't anybody tell me this?" This is the way open source world is. You have to dig out by yourself and weigh the pros and cons before you pick or reject a product.

Well, I am glad that your problem is solved. Happy New Year!

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Hi Sam

Well, I just woke up from a good night sleep for once, and waking up with a lot less stressful is a good feeling...

Yes I'm am the president of a youth association, and the youth of today expect what I call gimics to make them use certain features and stay apart of the association, like country flags, gender flags, youtube options, ability to have there IM details in their profile, the ability to show who there fav band is in their profile, the ability to stop guests from seeing profiles or the ability to stop new members seeing all profile details until they are verified, or have reached a certain post count, and the number one is feeling safe from the sicko's.

Youth today expect a lot from a website, we are an international association, and have over 1000 members.

I hope that answers your questions.

And again, thanks for your help

Will



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