Subject: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 26/07/08 02:02pm
By: ::Ben

From glFusion

Mark and I are still happy to continue supporting any of the plugins or themes we've published thus far for Geeklog, but we do not plan on releasing any new updates to those plugins or themes for the Geeklog environment. If you are interested in picking up development of any of these legacy plugins or themes for Geeklog, please feel free to contact us.

So sad news for Geeklog community today. But life is life. Long life to glFusion, long life to Geeklog.

I will be inresting in the future development of some of that great gllabs plugins. Can everybody tell me more about the way you see this? About name, about organisation...?

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 26/07/08 04:55pm
By: geiss

Hi Ben,

Not exactly sure what you mean with referring to name and organization, but my thought is this: Mark Howard (mst3kroqs) has already offered to continue development on the Chameleon plugin/theme under Geeklog. He has been working closely with Mark and I, and should be releasing something soon along those lines.

If anyone wants to do the same and take over development of Media Gallery, Captcha, Dokuwiki, vThemes, etc. or any of the themes that I have released for Geeklog v1.4.1, feel free to contact Mark or myself, and we'll get you the latest source code we have. We would be happy to see their development continued on the Geeklog platform. Big Grin

We plan to continue to develop the above items under the glFusion umbrella, but I would think that if anyone wanted to re-brand or re-name any of them (to help avoid confusion between the two projects) then we are all for it, as long as proper licensing and attribution are maintained. (And yes, that door swings both ways!) Big Grin

The beauty about open source code is that this freedom is built in. I've said it before, and I want to re-iterate it again, I hope this separation will ultimately be a good thing for the community and for these two projects, and I hope to continue in the spirit of collaboration between the two projects. Mark Howard, and his work on Chameleon, has been a strong example of this open spirit of collaboration and we are grateful for it. Big Grin

As mentioned previously, we've decided to separate because of differing philosophies, but that doesn't mean that both can't co-exist peacefully and without animosity. Nobody is *right* and nobody is *wrong* in situations like this. It's just a different point of view we are offering to the community. Hopefully everyone will examine both solutions and use the one that fits their needs best for any given project.

Now, changing the subject a little Ben, I want to applaud you for putting together this Summer of Design effort. I sincerely hope you have a great response. Unfortunately, I won't be able to participate, as I have my plate full with obvious other things. :wink: But I would like to offer you specifically the opportunity to take the reins on any of the themes that I have released for Geeklog. I think you've made some wonderful themes, and have a desire to see this aspect of the codebase further explored and developed. :shakehands: Feel free to email me if you're interested. Big Grin

Thx!

Eric

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 28/07/08 11:47am
By: ::Ben

Thank you Eric for your response.

I made a new post about your themes to see what we can do here to port your job to Geeklog 1.5 because it would be pity to lose it.

About plugins I suggest to not rename them here on geeklog's umbrella and to open a new bug tracker project for each of them on project.geeklog.net/tracking/.

Dirk if you could do this Smile In a first time, it will help us to centralize feature requests for the next versions.

Thanks.

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 03/09/08 11:57am
By: ::Ben

Hi Eric,

I'm now back from my big holydays Smile

I would like to take over development of Media Gallery, Captcha, Dokuwiki and vThemes for Geeklog. I sent you a email to confirm.

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 03/09/08 12:51pm
By: geiss

Got it and replied. Big Grin

Thanks Ben!

-Eric

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 03/09/08 06:20pm
By: Anonymous

And the answer was...? If it was yes, it converns everyone. Smile

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 03/09/08 06:21pm
By: Anonymous

converns

I meant "concerns".

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 03/09/08 07:15pm
By: geiss

Re: the plugins, he was put in contact with Mark.

Re: the themes, as I said previously, he has my blessing on continuing to support them for Geeklog. He has a link to all the latest versions.

Thx!

Eric

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 04/09/08 04:48am
By: ::Ben

Yes, details about themes are in this post.

Thanks.

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 04/09/08 05:12am
By: Anonymous

It's not a good start that you used the URL autotag instead of the FORUM one...

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 04/09/08 05:35am
By: ::Ben

So have a look There...

And if you want to help to maintain or port few themes you are welcome.

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 13/10/08 02:27pm
By: Laugh

Cordiste have you done work on the CAPTCHA plugin yet?

I have version 3.0.3 (the current released version is 3.0.2) which Mark had updated a while ago to include support for the new 2.4.0 rating plugin. I'll be releasing the rating plugin soon (after some more testing) and would like to release the upgraded CAPTCHA as well.

Thanks

Tom

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 13/10/08 04:32pm
By: ::Ben

Hi Laugh,

Yes captcha and dokuwiki plugins are on the road. This is testing time.
Of course Captcha will take care of your rating plugin.

A release will be available very soon.

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 13/10/08 08:29pm
By: LWC

What about Media Gallery? I've programmed a patch that makes MG displaying PDF files directly in the browser (if the user has a PDF reader, of course) instead of prompting to open/save them (which chases the average user away).

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 14/10/08 08:58am
By: jmucchiello

Quote by: LWC

What about Media Gallery? I've programmed a patch that makes MG displaying PDF files directly in the browser (if the user has a PDF reader, of course) instead of prompting to open/save them (which chases the average user away).

Ironically, I hate when PDFs open in the browser and prefer when they open in Acrobat Reader externally. There's even a Firefox extension (or 2) to help you control where PDFs end up.

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 14/10/08 09:41am
By: ::Ben

Hi LWC

Yes it's time to speak about features request for media gallery 1.5.2

Tell me more about your patch. How do you see the posibility for a visitor to choose between opening the pdf in his browser or in his prefered reader?

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 14/10/08 01:28pm
By: LWC

Quote by: jmucchiello

Ironically, I hate when PDFs open in the browser and prefer when they open in Acrobat Reader externally.


Well, in my patch, you can still right click PDF files and choose "save as". I think there's a difference between users who want to casually view some PDF file and get on to the next page, and those who want to "stop everything" and view it externally, then print it, etc.

But since opinions differ, this leads me to:
Quote by: cordiste

How do you see the posibility for a visitor to choose between opening the pdf in his browser or in his prefered reader?


First of all, "in his browser" is "his prefered reader" just as well. It's the same program, only embedded in the browser. But to solve the problem, I think there should be both a *global default and a "Personal MG settings" choice.

* Hopefully, the default to the global default would be what I chose, because I think that's much more friendly to the average casual user.

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 14/10/08 04:51pm
By: ::Ben

Yes there should be a global default and a personal MG setting.

Witch script is it? Does it work with other program than the adobe acrobat reader?

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 15/10/08 11:32am
By: LWC

Quote by: cordiste

Witch script is it? Does it work with other program than the adobe acrobat reader?


First of all, ever since my last post I've extended my script to handle every mime type which starts with application/ but doesn't end with /x-msdownload (EXE files). You can take this if statement as-is and just add something like "&& $enable_direct_view".

Secondly, Acrobat has nothing to do with my script. It's all about header control. I just don't apply a few headers (that Mark put it to force the file to be treated like an external attachment) and add a new one, and suddenly the file is opened directly. And if you choose to save it instead, it's still saved with its original name (thanks to the new header).

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 15/10/08 12:52pm
By: ::Ben

Hi LWC,

Can you paste your code... I try to understand how to open a pdf file in my browser without an "acrobat" plugin.

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 15/10/08 12:58pm
By: LWC

Quote by: cordiste

Can you paste your code... I try to understand how to open a pdf file in my browser without an "acrobat" plugin


That's impossible. I just meant my script accepts any PDF viewer, Acrobat or not. Same way for any other file type (under the aforementioned if statement). In other words, it makes the browser use its plugins instead of popping out an open/save dialog.

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 15/10/08 03:50pm
By: ::Ben

Yes LWC I undestand.

If we are talking about open source, can we see the code? I would like to learn.

::Ben

Re: The future of gllabs plugins

Posted on: 03/11/08 05:35am
By: LWC

Your new MG specific topic.

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