Subject: do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 04/08/05 02:44am
By: Anonymous

if i have a siteindex.php & i upload my sitemap to google -


do i really need to have my article titles as hyperlinks?????


i am using the clean theme..

this is my last question - honest!

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 04/08/05 04:09am
By: beewee

Well, if you want as much visitors as possible, yes, it's better to link the story titles.
There are lot's of threads about SEO, but to keep it short: search engines look in GL from header, left column, center column, right column to footer, and think that the content in the hyperlinks, header tags (H1, H2 etc), list items and bold/italic tags are the most important content.

So it would even be better to put a link to the story titles and also give them a H* tag. You can adjust your CSS to adjust the appearance of the story titles.

[QUOTE BY= angelica]this is my last question - honest![/QUOTE]
Ask whatever you want, but please do some forum searching first...

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 04/08/05 07:11pm
By: Anonymous

i do search alot of the forum b4 i ask for help.

the reason i asked is because Dirk has been trying to help me fix the CSS problem with the "CLEAN" theme.

when i turn the articles into links & do the css fix (that non-ul thing),
it doesn't work.

i tried changing SPAN to A but still nothing...

i wish someone would find a fix or something for this & post it...




do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 04/08/05 07:37pm
By: drshakagee

Assuming you are using a non modified version of the clean theme you can add this:
a.articleTitle {
color: #000000; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}
a:hover.articleTitle {
color: #000000; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: none;
}

to your style sheet, and make sure you have:
<span class="articleTitle"><a href="{article_url}" class="articleTitle">{story_title}</a></span>
for your story titles in your various story template files.

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 04/08/05 07:46pm
By: Anonymous

I added this to my style.css

.nodecoration:link, a.nodecoration:visited, a.nodecoration:hover, a.nodecoration:active {
	background: transparent;
	color: #000000;
	text-decoration: none; }


& I changed this is my featuredstorytext.thtml

	<td align="left"><h1><span class="articleTitle"><a href="{article_url}" title="{story_title}" class="nodecoration">{story_title}</a></span><h1></td>  



so now the text does not look like a hyperlink anymore

BUT

the h1 or h2 tags don't work....

helpeth

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 04/08/05 08:23pm
By: drshakagee

In your featuredstorytext.thtml example you forgot to close your h1 tag. Does that fix it for you? If not what do you want the h1 tags to do?

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 04/08/05 11:37pm
By: Anonymous

thanks dr

i posted that last message b4 i read your post.

i tried your post & it almost works now!!!

it works when i hover over the article title but not before that..

i will play around with it & thanks alot!!!!!

getting closer

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 04/08/05 11:43pm
By: Anonymous

THANKS DRSHAKAGEE!!!!!

i added this to your post:
a.articleTitle {
color: #000000; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover.articleTitle {
color: #000000; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: none;
}
a:visited.articleTitle {
color: #000000; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: none;
}
a:link.articleTitle {
color: #000000; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration: none;
}



& now it works!!

thank you so very much.

hopefully your post will help others' later on..

muchos gracias

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 08/08/05 02:41am
By: drshakagee

Glad it worked out. If you want to clean up the code a bit you can try changing your style sheet to have this instead:
a.articleTitle, a:hover.articleTitle, a:visited.articleTitle, a:link.articleTitle, h1.articleTitle { color: #000000; font-weight: bold; font-size: 14px; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; text-decoration:none; margin:2px; padding:0; }

It is a bit cleaner.

Change your story template files to have this:
<h1 class="articleTitle"><a href="{article_url}" title="{story_title}" class="articleTitle">{story_title}</a></h1>


Google really likes the h1 tags for story titles which I think you realized. I couldn't see that the old span tag did anything anymore so might as well take it off.

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 08/08/05 06:38am
By: beewee

Using H1 tags always gives me a problem with Internet Explorer, I always get too much whitespace below the line with the H1 (or H2/H3) tags.

Any suggestions?

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 08/08/05 08:21am
By: beewee

yes, believe I found a solution:

h1.classname {
margin-bottom: 0px;
}

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 08/08/05 01:38pm
By: Dirk

I'd prefer display: inline;

bye, Dirk

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 08/08/05 01:57pm
By: drshakagee

[QUOTE BY= Dirk] I'd prefer display: inline;

bye, Dirk[/QUOTE]

Hey that's handy, thanks for the tip!

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Posted on: 09/08/05 04:06am
By: beewee

Yep, that's the most sophisticated option, but with Margin you can adjust the whitespace exactly the way you like it..

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 04:59am
By: garfy

i have a problem now i changed this two options

can u help


do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:04am
By: beewee

What is the problem exactly?

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:06am
By: garfy

[QUOTE BY= beewee] What is the problem exactly?[/QUOTE]

look at my site

i have 2 titles and i do not know if the fist is now h1 title

please help somehow

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:15am
By: beewee

Ah, now I see it, the first small title has the class articleTtile and the H1 tags, does that help you out?

Hint: use Firefox and the developer toolbar extension, that can show you all the information you need.

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:21am
By: garfy

did i fix it

are my titles in h1 tags

is everything ok??



I hope i will get more traffic now

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:25am
By: beewee

Looks OK now, but please do add a few px padding on the left of your story title, it is too close to the topic icon.

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:36am
By: beewee

BTW you can make it a little better, look at this part of my storytext.thtml
<H1 class="story-title"><a href="{article_url}" title="go to: {story_title} in topic {story_topic_name}" class="story-title"><b>{story_title}</b></a></H1>



Notice the title tag? I'm not sure how the search engines spider it, but it's worth trying since it doubles the keywords...

Did the same trick with the topic tag:
<a href="{site_url}/index.php?topic={story_topic_id}" title="{story_topic_name}">


do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:41am
By: garfy

bewee do you get a lot of traffic to your website

i only get 30 per day

horrible


do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:44am
By: beewee

Well, it's in dutch, so the max. amount of visitors is somehow limited, only about 20,000,000 speak dutch, but I got about 300-500, sometimes 1000 unique visitors per day, 6 month after starting. The biggest increase in visitors is about 6 weeks after starting.

It might help to submit your RSS feeds wherever you can.

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:46am
By: garfy

what are rss feeds


do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 05:53am
By: beewee

How do you survive without them?

Look here

Link is correct now

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 06:12am
By: garfy

wrong linbk bewee

do i really need articles as hyperlinks?

Posted on: 05/09/05 08:16am
By: beewee

To optimise your site even better you have to put some structure in your site, since Google likes a nice H1/H2/H3 structure.

So I did this today:
on top of the site: a site slogan in H1
left column:
the first topic menu: H2
then a storiesbytopic block
some other blocks

in the center column:
-first a keyword rich slogan in H1 tags
-the storytitles in H2
-directly below the topic title in H3
-the story

I use multiple words for the topic title, so: weblogs, weblog software, blogs, blog scripts.
So Google sees a nice structured site, where the H tags are in the appropiate order.

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