Subject: Feedback requested by those Investigating Geeklog

Posted on: 28/01/04 02:39pm
By: Blaine

The Poll on the front page was added to get some current feedback on our site visitors as we have seen quite an increase in interest, downloads and site membership over the past year.

It was no surprise to see a large percentage of new users but the results to-date with over 350 votes indicates, there are over 40% still investigating. It's a major percentage of our daily/weekly visitors.

We have over 500 downloads daily and climbing. There have been over 650 downloads in the past 24hrs for example/ Thats just downloads from this site with 205 of them being the latest geeklog release. Our bandwidth used is approaching 1Gb/day.


I know some of the responses to this question but wanted to start this thread to get some feedback on this question.

What are the main things we should do different with this site or with Geeklog to make it more appealing or easier to make your decision

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Posted on: 29/01/04 12:25am
By: keystone430

I just did my first geeklog install. www.sunkeypublications.com Funny because I have been using geeklog for almost 2 years.

Geeklog was installed on my non-profit site by someone who was learning how to use it himself. He volunteered his time and taught me a lot. The site is also a HUGE success. www.keystonesoldiers.com

I also have several sports sites and when the network owner saw the geeklog setup on my other site he was so impressed he started using it and converted our entire network to geeklog. SportsInfinity gets over 6M visitors per month. With the new draft site he installed he had 529,635 visitors in one week. www.nflfans.com/draft/ When you look at his site you will see it is heavily customized but it is still geeklog and the logo is still on every site in the network even though we are all independent publishers.

Sorry this is so long. What I am suggesting to answer your question is that you should have a block of successful, non-developer sites listed on your front page so those trying to decide have some examples of how geeklog can work for them.

Not everyone investigating is building a site for program developers but most of the info found here is by and for them. The server company I just got space from has all the items there to install phpWebsite and phpNuke and if I had not already known about geeklog I may have installed one of them.
I do plan to let the server company know how well the geeklog install went and ask them about adding it to the options built into the control panel.
The ease of instal and the rapid response I got to questions here was amazing. I thank all of those who answered my questions so quickly in the last 2 days. I will be using geeklog for several more sites I will be building for clients, including one I got last night who wants 6 websites built next month. He saw the one I did yesterday and called today.

Thank you!

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Posted on: 01/02/04 05:00am
By: buddilla

After installing Geeklog i can definitly see it potential. It can have many more Features as well. Such as Maybe Commerce integration for esales. Im sure there is a way to do it just not right out of the box. Hmmm maybe a OSX installer as well packaged with MySQL would get more people to use it.
Don''t forget to make it turn on PHP for those client versions of X. Then we will see a big jump in downloads. Im even thinking of doing it myself. Hmmm only after i get the cookies to work right. Im not able to get cookies to work correctly yet. i.e. not able to log in. yet phpmyadmin works fine with cookies. ill ask this question in the FAQ later.
OS X 10.3.2
Dual G4 500mhz
1.5/384 dsl line.
hehehe

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Posted on: 04/02/04 10:37am
By: Anonymous

I've been one of those investigating Geeklog for some time mostly because I'm totally green at things to do with mySQL and php and things like that. Basically, I was looking for a webhost which would offer a preferably free installation of GL and help me configure it.

I have found a few hosts which are willing to help me out and for that, I'm glad. But, it would be most helpful if Geeklog.net could list webhosts that offer affordable prices with Geeklog installation.

I'll be installing my Geeklog soon prolly in less than a couple of weeks' time after 6 months of contemplation! But, i must add Geeklog is a fantastic idea! Thank you!

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Posted on: 05/02/04 11:46pm
By: Anonymous

Hi,

I am looking at using a news system for my site.

I guess the main problem I have with downloading these programs is:

1) A lot of script sites do not have demonstrations/screenshots/sufficient 'jargon-free' documentation to show the flexibility and possibilities of said scripts.

Thanks.

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Posted on: 06/02/04 03:52am
By: Dirk

[QUOTE BY= Jonny] 1) A lot of script sites do not have demonstrations/screenshots/sufficient 'jargon-free' documentation to show the flexibility and possibilities of said scripts.[/QUOTE]
You can test out Geeklog (and a lot of other scripts) without having to install it over at opensourcecms.com.

Setting up a Geeklog demo site is also on my to-do list (maybe once 1.3.9rc1 is finally out ...).

bye, Dirk

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Posted on: 06/02/04 11:54pm
By: Anonymous

I'm considering putting together a site to "publish" some ultra-short video sketches that I'm currently planning. I'm a geek and a filmmaker who knows nothing about PHP or mySQL, but have a lot of programming experience. That said, I'm still on the fence mostly because all of the blog tools I've seen, geeklog included, seem mostly concerned with non-media-rich applications, of which my site won't qualify. I don't need much, but I'm wondering if I'll need more than Geeklog to get by.

I hope this note provides you guys with something useful.

Much love,

auteur0

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Posted on: 07/02/04 04:00am
By: drago

I just downloaded and installed geeklog within the past week, and already made a lot of changes to suit my needs. For one, I wanted geeklog to auto detect whether I use http or https sessions and keep it that way for every access. Especially if I'm being an admin from an untrusted site (like work). Since I've limited my site to the Smooth_Blue theme I didn't bother changing any templates in other layouts.

Another case, even though geeklog recommends users don't add spaces to their names when they register, they still can. Later they can't access their account. So I had to write code to validate usernames and call it at appropriate times. I had to add additional error messages, but I only changed the english.php version.

Prior to geeklog I was using Moveable type. I didn't have very many stories, but there was no easy way to import my stories and comments into geeklog. Some automated import/export feature would be nice. Also bulk operations on stories or comments would be nice. Being able to edit someone else's comment, or disabling new comments but showing existing ones. The list goes on...

I've been keeping all my changes locally in CVS so I can merge future changes into my code, or to provide my changes back to interested parties. I've also integrated gallery and tried to keep up with some of the reported bugs. I would like to send my patches back to the developers. However I was so busy this week converting over I haven't had the chance to contact anybody yet.

I must say though I think geeklog has a lot of potential and the developers have done a great job to get it this far. Since I've already converted all my old stories and added new content this week I have committed to it. However, the site is private so I can't really share the URL. Sorry.

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Posted on: 07/02/04 04:34am
By: Dirk

[QUOTE BY= drago] Another case, even though geeklog recommends users don't add spaces to their names when they register, they still can. Later they can't access their account. So I had to write code to validate usernames and call it at appropriate times.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, can you explain that, please?

AFAICS, user names with spaces in them should work just fine (despite that note about not using spaces). I'm not aware of any problems with this.

bye, Dirk

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Posted on: 07/02/04 11:40am
By: drago

[QUOTE BY= Dirk] Hmm, can you explain that, please?

AFAICS, user names with spaces in them should work just fine (despite that note about not using spaces). I'm not aware of any problems with this.

bye, Dirk[/QUOTE]

I was looking at logs, and perhaps it was coincidence that the first user to mistype a password happened to also put a space in their username.

Nevertheless, I anticipate allowing special characters in usernames to cause my site problems (i.e, did they put one space or two!?), so I explicitly check for a valid username as defined by my site. This could be a hook in geeklog.

Thanks,
Drago

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Posted on: 07/02/04 12:44pm
By: Dirk

[QUOTE BY= drago] so I explicitly check for a valid username as defined by my site. This could be a hook in geeklog.[/QUOTE]
Our project site is down (see current featured story) so I can't check, but I think there's already a feature request or a bug report for that ...

bye, Dirk

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Posted on: 07/02/04 01:16pm
By: ronack

I've been using GL for maybe close to a year and a half. So far I love it and it does most everything I need. I say most becuse there are still plugins that I am waiting for. ie osCommerace by DrShakagee. I dont' know if he is going to release that or not. Also I can't seem to get the Upage plugin to work all that well. And I ended up using a membership software that isn't intergrated with GL called aMember.

However the core Geeklog works flawlessly and overall I am very happy with it.

I think more than anything for theme developers, plugin developers and other modifications(Hacks), I would like to see everyone get on the same page. I admire those who have the ability to design a plugin and many people do and I even assisted in the design of zClassifieds. But it seems that every plugin installation is different with it's own problems. So maybe a tighter standard in that department.

If GL is going to remain Open Source, then I think a description of what files control what areas. For instance if I want to change how links are displayed then It should tell me what template to change. Most of my time is trying to figure out what template handles something. (more for theme design than anything I guess)

Something else you should address more is GL's ability to do XML, in both the RDF output and it's ability to dislplay RSS,RDF,XML Feeds. I think this is a huge plus and I also believe that you are going to see more and more things come out in the XML arena. I believe that is where the trend is going.

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Posted on: 07/02/04 01:37pm
By: Dirk

[QUOTE BY= ronack] Something else you should address more is GL's ability to do XML, in both the RDF output and it's ability to dislplay RSS,RDF,XML Feeds. I think this is a huge plus and I also believe that you are going to see more and more things come out in the XML arena. I believe that is where the trend is going. [/QUOTE]
As mentioned in this thread, Geeklog 1.3.9 will let you implement your own feed formats. I'm also keeping an eye on the development of Atom, as that may (or may not) become the Next Big Thing.

However, some things in this area will have to wait until Geeklog 2, as the current architecture gets in the way on occasion ...

bye, Dirk

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Posted on: 07/02/04 02:05pm
By: ronack

[QUOTE BY= Dirk]As mentioned in this thread, Geeklog 1.3.9 will let you implement your own feed formats. I'm also keeping an eye on the development of Atom, as that may (or may not) become the Next Big Thing.

However, some things in this area will have to wait until Geeklog 2, as the current architecture gets in the way on occasion ...

bye, Dirk[/QUOTE]
Your right and it looks like ATOM is based around XML.

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Posted on: 15/02/04 11:00pm
By: nemertinator

I've been exploring the possibility of using GL or similar blog to replace a forum function on a site built on diverse interacting databases with the aim to be a knowledge base for a professional group. The focus of the forum must be to foster interactivity of that user community. Users must be able to start discussion topics and sign on or off receiving e-mail responses at a fairly fine level and the system must work easily for relatively computer naive users. I discovered that blogs tend to be too centrally controlled and I had given up on the idea of using a blog until I ran into GL while searching for PHP-based forums and then again in a MacWorld article. I like the Poll function a lot, the forum flexibility still seems a bit constrained (but that may be the examples I've found), and I have no idea how well it does with handling images. The gallery function is pretty weak in the sites I visited. I will definitely ask my webmaster to investigate GL more fully with me.
--jn

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Posted on: 29/02/04 02:27pm
By: Anonymous

I love Geeklog. It's a great piece of software (even though it's PHP-based), and I'd recommend it for any personal blog/site. I usually prefer J2EE-based tools, but Geeklog is self-contained enough for me not to worry about using PHP.

I do wish I could figure out how to turn thecensorware off. Sometimes I just want to swear on my blog, and a piece of software should not prevent me from doing so.Joe

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Posted on: 29/02/04 03:44pm
By: Dirk

[QUOTE BY= Joe Morse] I do wish I could figure out how to turn thecensorware off. Sometimes I just want to swear on my blog, and a piece of software should not prevent me from doing so.[/QUOTE]
In Geeklog, you mean?

$_CONF['censormode'] = 0;

in config.php.

bye, Dirk

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Posted on: 01/03/04 03:41am
By: ZK-SHB

Hi

I came across an install of Geeklog on another site

and thought I would take a look. So far I like what I see, I am running it locally to get the 'feel' for it and apart from mySql dropping the db for some reason it has been a relatively painless excersise to install it (twice!) I am impressed with the features avaliable in the default installation and the documentation is good my only complaint here is that maybe you should include the full paths (I know it's mentioned at the top that everything resides in public_html but when you are reading installation instructions line by line it's easy to forget! maybe that's just me )
Anyway's I think you've got a winner here and I think you've solved my problem of what to 'do' with my website.
Cheers Guys & Gals
ZK-SHB

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Posted on: 31/03/04 06:39am
By: kolgados

Hi,
some time ago i was testing severral's CMS system to manage my site and thinks that GL is a good point, the best quality, for me, is the speed of load :-D

but I thinks that need some features, like the pm function or the banners manager.

btw, any spanish people here?

my best
Vlad
www.kolgados.com.ar

SoLar - Software Libre Argentina

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Posted on: 31/03/04 09:48am
By: Turias

[QUOTE BY= kolgados] Hi,
some time ago i was testing severral's CMS system to manage my site and thinks that GL is a good point, the best quality, for me, is the speed of load :-D

but I thinks that need some features, like the pm function or the banners manager.

btw, any spanish people here?

my best
Vlad
www.kolgados.com.ar

SoLar - Software Libre Argentina[/QUOTE]

There is PM functionality in Blaine's Private Messenger Plugin. Check out PortalParts. As for banner rotation, some people have been using a phpAd integration. I don't remember the name, but see if you can find it using a search.

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Posted on: 31/03/04 07:46pm
By: kolgados

Hi, thnkz
the module for pm thaty u refers sound good but for me is too spensibe :-(
btw i don't speack about the downloads method, only say that is to much for me ;-)
I will search for the banners app
thanks
Vlad

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Posted on: 31/03/04 08:32pm
By: jnordquist

I think a nice enhancement to the Geeklog site would be to have one static page with links to as many resources, themes, plugins, blocks and hacks as possible - a one stop page. It's sometimes frustrating having to search for themes, (I only use one actually), or other needed info, although the core sites, this one, squatty.com, portalparts.com, will generally net what I'm looking for.

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Posted on: 31/03/04 08:49pm
By: Turias

[QUOTE BY= jnordquist] I think a nice enhancement to the Geeklog site would be to have one static page with links to as many resources, themes, plugins, blocks and hacks as possible - a one stop page. It's sometimes frustrating having to search for themes, (I only use one actually), or other needed info, although the core sites, this one, squatty.com, portalparts.com, will generally net what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]

I was actually planning on doing that for the Geeklog Documentation Project. Unfortunately, that has yet to get started.

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Posted on: 25/05/04 08:40am
By: Anonymous

research how to cooperate with other applications as galleries (gallery 2, coppermine) and forums (phpbb, invboard, ...).

we don't need every portal/cms group to clone a phpbb and vice-versa phpbb shouldn't build there own portal.

work together.

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Posted on: 25/05/04 09:30am
By: Anonymous

i have found geeklog thru opensourcecms.com

i found e107 and geeklog the best for my needs, but i want to make some sandboxes to get the ultimate experience in the terms of maintaining as well.

one problem is that i need to support html illiterate editors/publishers.... and that sucks.. but i have seen today that it is doable using something like htmlarea. are you thinking of implementing something like this? (htmlarea is bsd licensed)

-f

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Posted on: 25/05/04 01:52pm
By: Dirk

[QUOTE BY= almost anonymous, almost coward] but i have seen today that it is doable using something like htmlarea. are you thinking of implementing something like this? (htmlarea is bsd licensed)[/QUOTE]
Search the forums for "htmlarea" - lots of people have already integrated it with Geeklog.

bye, Dirk

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Posted on: 03/06/04 02:22pm
By: RanchNachos

I was also one of the poll users who were "still thinking about it" - but I decided to switch ever since MovableType decided to become a "payed for" service with the version 3 release.

I'm now in the process of finding themes for GL.

Although I must say there is a lot of useful functionality with GL, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of themes out there. I count, maybe 15-20 tops? (Correct me if I'm wrong though.)

MovableType has... 30+ themes, at least. And which I don't like to say, but seem to be designed more professionally than the GL themes. (I know I'm going to recieve flames for that statement).

Don't get me wrong though, I'm giving GL a fair and honest chance at becoming my main CMS. And if I had even the slightest bit of design and/or creativity skills, I'd be designing themes for GL myself .. but unfortunately that won't ever happen...


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Posted on: 03/06/04 03:14pm
By: Dirk

[QUOTE BY= RanchNachos] Although I must say there is a lot of useful functionality with GL, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of themes out there. I count, maybe 15-20 tops? (Correct me if I'm wrong though.) [/QUOTE]
There were 60+ last time I counted. Although quite a few of them are recolored versions of the standard themes (XSilver and Clean variants are especially popular).

I had a site once were I collected them all, but its down at the moment. Robert Stadnik has probably the most complete collection at the moment, see here.

bye, Dirk

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Posted on: 03/06/04 07:17pm
By: RanchNachos

Hmm. I stand corrected.

But thanks for the link to the list, and collection of viewable themes on the other website..

Ken

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Posted on: 14/06/04 09:35pm
By: dick

As a n00b to PHP/MySql/Linux, I have found Geeklog fantatstic. It offers the features I wanted, and absoluytly no headaches. I think the installation process is much easier then the tutorials explain. Its all very straightforward, without all the overkill and confusion PHPNuke and the millions of others seem to have.

My website has come up in record time, and has things integrated into it I have always wanted.

Too bad there isnt a paypal contribution link here somewhere, I fancy throwing some money at it, and if you knew me personannly, that would astound and amaze you more then the circus.

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Posted on: 15/06/04 11:54am
By: xardoz

I've been using Geeklog for about 6 months now, both on my personal site and my employer's website and it's great.

There are two things I'd like to see, and maybe they already exist:

1: A static page that would allow you to change all the CONFIG.PHP settings without manually editing the file and then uploading it via FTP.

2: An absolutely plain theme with no graphics and minimal CSS that us n00bs could use as a basic template. It would be great if the CSS for this starter them could have full ducumentation saying what each style is specifically used for.

I say that because the themes I do like seem to have extra styles that aren't used, and it's confusing trying to figure out where each one is used.

Regardless, GL is a great app.

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Posted on: 15/06/04 01:59pm
By: tomw

A static page that would allow you to change all the CONFIG.PHP settings without manually editing the file and then uploading it via FTP.


As long as you can make your config.php editable by the webserver check out my Admin Tools

TomW


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Posted on: 17/06/04 07:24pm
By: Anonymous

but I thinks that need some features, like the pm function or the banners manager.


Try phpmyadsnew for the ads

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Posted on: 15/07/04 08:01am
By: Anonymous

Just started installing Geeklog yesterday, and run in some problems , but I think I've got it fixed now. I had some problems wiht installing stuff in the public_html folder, but that is now fixed. I'm just left with some double directories (like layout, which is both in the public_html file and just outside it, and both are being used by Geeklog, but I can live with this.

Now I'm just going to find some neat plug-ins or mods or whatever it's called

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Posted on: 16/07/04 02:31pm
By: Dirk

[QUOTE BY= Edwin] I'm just left with some double directories (like layout, which is both in the public_html file and just outside it, and both are being used by Geeklog, but I can live with this.[/QUOTE]
You should really fix this, or you'll run into problems sooner or later. But you'd better start a new forum thread for that ...

bye, Dirk

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