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Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Sunday, June 30 2002 @ 10:44 pm EDT

I personally think it\'s already quite easy to use.
If you can find an easier to install/use framework I\'d like to hear about
it. It always comes down to that tradeoff.. Ease of use means
assumptions (in context), which in turn means it works well for some and
dies for others. If you could define the final picture, then you might get
the form tight. From past experience it seems there will Always be those
who have difficulties due to lack of experience, and that\'s OK too, they
just need a little extra support. Hmmm.. how can we improve the users..
:) - perhaps some well written documentation, demonstrable practices
etc.

There were three reasons for my choosing GL. The first, it looked pretty.
The second, it stacked up well against 5 other php portals. The third, it
required almost nothing to tweak to taste.

Forgive the metaphors and abstractions here, that\'s just how i see it :)

Actually..

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Monday, July 01 2002 @ 12:08 am EDT

Anon is totally right. I reviewed the entire nuke family and several content management packages and choose GL because it fit _all_ my requirements. None of the others did.

GL has encouraged me to learn PHP coding and made it a simple and straight foward process to see how almost everything works. The code is not blended stirn noodles hacked and patched to the point of getting a doctorate in GL to work on it.

My install took all of ten mins. It worked the first time. It till works and the bugs I encountered are being fixed.

Block and plugins installs are pretty simple, like cookbooking and not like appendix removal.

Help is available everywhere I look.

etc, ad nausium, till your eyes fall out reading the good stuff.

Bad stuff--
Documentation. I know you guys will have it for us when it\'s ready, but most people choosing this for business solutions are not the IT kiddos. They are \"the guy who \'knows\' computers\", I know because for years I was that guy. Know one windows keyboard shortcut and you\'re the department \"webmaster\".

That\'s all that comes to mind right now.

My own users are a good spread of \"so I use that browser thingy right?\" to \"Gads, Max, for the love of God, dont use sprintf there.\" The ones having trouble figuring out posting usually admit to difficulty understanding the terminology, so I changes \"web resources\" to \"links\" and some other things in the langue file per directions from the guys on the #IRC channel and that was that, no more complaints. one user couldn\'t find a link back to the home page, so I told him about the link in the header..... ect.

As a business solution, GL makes an excellant program to keep people up to date and post policies (static pages), gathering user data via polls, help manage contacts and makes inter user communications a snap.

I\'ll shut up now.
--Max

Actually..

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Tuesday, July 02 2002 @ 08:38 pm EDT

I think you miss the point. You want this to be either well received by more people or you don\'t.
The current configuration consists of me performing the following functions:
1. Untarring the stuff
2. Creating a mysql user and database and assigning rights to the user
3. Modify lib-common.php so that it knows where to read the config file
4. Running the installation script which then attempts to build everything, provided this \"everything\" is in the correct directory structure the tarball came in.
5. Editing this config file again so that things do not screw up.
6. Changing the password of the admin user.

If this is to be made easier, you will probably want step 3 to do step 4, right?? And you do want people to locate their config.php somewhere safe right?

Anyway, you will delete directories such as sql, docs and other directories like that rite?

For upgrading, recently, things just got a bit messy. In fact, I dun really do \"upgrading\". I tend to like to copy the whole directory structure, and update the database a little, and just sit back. But with the installation script thing, I ain\'t able to do that anymore. I had to grab the sqldump and edit that and dump that back in the server, utter waste of time if GL was able to do dumps before.

I\'m pretty sure when I chose GL, it was coz one of the things the original dude said he wanted was for GL to be secure. And I\'ve tried to also help ensure all my installations of GL are secure.

Ciao
ST Lim

Actually..

Authored by: Anonymous (Anonymous User) on Wednesday, July 03 2002 @ 07:00 pm EDT

I haven\'t read all of the other comments so I won\'t comment on them, but I\'ve been experimenting with several CMS\'s/Portals/blogs and the one thing consistantly lacking has been documentation for the average user who doesn\'t know php from mysql from a hole under thier belly button ...All they know if \"Can I figure it out in 8 seconds?\" If they don\'t they leave and usually never come back.
Most web developers have run across this with family and friends... They don\'t know spit so you lose them right from the beginning time and time again so you just give up.

I haven\'t tried geeklog out yet and just downloaded it, but the fact that you ask at all is a good sign ;)

Tristate
...OH KY IN We\'re looking for a CMS/Portal/Blog so the \'dummies\' can use it too... :)

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